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The album offers some classic vintage songs and a few Paul McCartney originals.
How did the general idea come about?
bit older and I got a bit more capable. But I was always busking it; he knew the real
chords, and I had to busk my way around. But it was good enough for the family sing-
song. A lot of these songs, like Bye Bye Blackbird, were ones that I’d sung along with.
For years I’ve been wanting to do some of the old songs that my parents’ generation
used to sing at New Year. What would happen is us kids would arrive at the ‘do’, the
carpets would get rolled back, all the women would sit around with their little drinks
of rum-and-black, gin-and-it, Babycham; someone would play the piano and it was
normally my Dad. They would sing these old songs all night: When The Red Red
Robin, Carolina Moon. And I took all of that in.
There’s a track called Home that I remember from my Dad’s era. It’s funny, when I
suggested that one, Diana said, “Oh my gosh, I though I was the only person on earth
who knew that song.” I actually used to do an instrumental version of it, before The
Beatles. I liked the chords, so I used to play a little guitar instrumental when me and
John were just getting it together. So I had nice memories of that one.
Eventually I just said “I really ought to do this, or I’ll go off the idea, and I’ll kick
myself.” So I talked to a lady in our New York Ofice called Nancy Jeffries who knows
all about all the publishing side of the business, and I said, “If I was gonna do it, who
might I work with? Who might produce? What songs do you think I might do? I’ve got
my own selection, what do you think?” And she said, “I think Tommy LiPuma would
be great, you should meet him, and I’ll think of some songs to suggest.”
But some of the songs we’ve done on the album are songs that I didn’t know. Like,
More I Cannot Wish You, is actually from the stage show Guys & Dolls; it didn’t make
the ilm. But I thought it was such a poignant little song. And what totally did my
head in is, it’s a guy, the grandfather, singing to a young girl. With me having a young
daughter it’s very poignant. There’s one that’s quite famous, particularly in jazz circles,
called My One And Only Love ( bonus track ), which I’d never heard, it had passed me
by. But it’s beautifully crafted, one of my favourite songs now.
So I met with Tommy ( LiPuma ), and we just hung out, talking about the songs, the old
sing-songs, and we found we had a lot in common. But we tried to work out a slightly
different approach, and used a selection of songs that wouldn’t be the absolute
obvious ones, like The Way You Look Tonight, songs that everyone tends to cover.
We looked for songs that were a little more unusual, that sometimes people might
never have heard. So that’s what happened. We found a bunch of things. It’s a good
idea to go slightly off-piste. Even to the extent where I didn’t know some of them.
And he suggested Diana Krall, who he knew very well. We ran through a couple of my
selections, a couple of Tommy’s, a couple of Diana’s, and we just threw a lot of songs
into a pool, and eventually I’d say, “I like that one, I’m not too keen on that one…” So
we had a bunch of things and we were ready to record.
Tell us a little about the making of this album.
The great thing about working with someone like Tommy, and it reminded me really
of working with George Martin, is that he’s a knowledgeable guy. He’s a veteran, in
the nicest possible way, of the recording business, so he has a great lineage. And,
like George, he knows all the good players. I’d say, “It might be nice to have a little
trombone solo,” and he’d say “OK” and he’d get in Ira Nepus. And for arrangements
he would say, “Well, I think Johnny Mandel would be great.” I must admit, I wanted to
work with Johnny, cos he’s one of the classics. But then, Tommy knew other arrangers,
a guy like Alan Broadbent who’s brilliant. So he could bring that to it. Rather than
just get any old trombone player, he’d say “I know a guy who knows the style and
would be very good.” That was very helpful. We ended up at Capitol A Studio, in
that very iconic building ( Capitol Records Tower, Hollywood ), where Nat King Cole,
Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, even Gene Vincent recorded. I was thrown in the deep
end, because I’m not a jazz player. I didn’t have a guitar or a piano to hide behind.
I was just put on what the engineers told me was Nat King Cole’s mic, which was
amazingly intimidating! In front of jazz musicians, which again was pretty intimidating.
I just had to ind my way through this. I tried this, I tried that, and I eventually found
the kind of zone that I’d be comfortable with. And once I’d got over the intimidated
feeling, it became a very pleasurable way to work.
Your own songs apart, the selections are all American, I think?
The thing is, from that era, we just chose what we thought were good songs, so the
nationality of the song didn’t matter. It just happened that there was a lot of good
American music coming out of the States at that time, it was a very rich period. We
didn’t choose on songwriters, we chose on whether we fancied the song or not, at
that moment. So there wasn’t any great head-banging or heavy breathing went into
the choices. It was more, “This feels right, let’s do this one.” So we just did it, a bit in
the manner of the sing-song: “Let’s do this one! Yeah!”
Were songs like these among the irst you ever learned to play?
There’s such a high level of musicianship on there. And the nice thing for me was,
other than going in to do the vocals, I didn’t feel like I had to do much hard work.
The players did all the hard work, and I was just in the booth, singing. There was
one moment when we were having a puzzle over some slight problem, and Diana
turned to me and said, “Paul, what are you going to do here?” I said, “I don’t mind.
No, I never learned how to play them. All I ever did was sing them, at the family
sing-songs. They’re quite complicated, the chords and things. I’d have a bash, and I
did eventually become the sort of family piano player, at New Year, as my Dad got a
I’m in LA. I’m British. I’m a tourist. I’m in Capitol A Studio, I’m singing on Nat King
Cole’s microphone – I’m on holiday!” And she looked at me and smiled. She went, “A
holiday.” So I think we all then went, “Great, OK, so let’s get that vibe.” And we did.
Whenever we were worried about something I’d go, “I don’t mind, I’m on holiday.”
So, coupled with the fact that we were not working from musical charts, and we were
really making it up, it ended up much more free and open and organic. It was quite a
voyage of discovery. There’s a very relaxed approach to it all.
entertainment centres. Basically, many of the houses in those days, and I understand
it was the same in America, had a piano. No matter how poor you were, most people
managed to get a piano. It’s funny, the one we had in our house, my Dad later told
me he’d bought off Brian Epstein’s Dad, in NEMS. People wanted positive songs to
lose the memory of the War. And I grew up with that. I think it really gave me a deep
love of that kind of thing.
Did it shape you much? We think of The Beatles as springing up with rock’n’roll,
but you personally had been around for some years before Elvis came along.
One of the nice things that I realised afterwards, I thought, “You know what? That’s
exactly how we used to work with The Beatles.” John and I would come in on
Monday morning with a song, that George Martin hadn’t heard, George and Ringo
hadn’t heard. We’d play them the song and we’d all kick it around until we had an
arrangement that we were satisied with. Then we’d record it, quite quickly, without
too much fuss. That was very much the way we did this, which was a great pleasure
for me.
Yes, we’d actually grown up with songs from that era. Two of John’s favourite songs,
when I met him, were Close Your Eyes ( by Bernice Petkere, 1933 ), which is very much
of that era, and the other was Little White Lies ( by Walter Donaldson, 1930 ). Those
were the kind of songs that we’d been listening to and that attracted me to him. I’d
say, Yeah, well I love that song and he’d say I love this one, or that one. And I do think
they did have quite an inluence on us melodically. A lot of these old songs had what
they called a “verse”. Anyone else would call it an introduction. It’s always the bit that
you never knew.
What about the track, My Valentine? That’s one of your own, albeit in the same
general style.
I was in Morocco with Nancy, who’s now my wife, and we were having a nice holiday
but it was raining rather a lot. I said, “A pity it’s raining” and she said “It doesn’t
matter, we can still have a good time.” And I’m like that, too, I don’t mind at all.
So there was an old piano, slightly out of tune, in the foyer of the hotel. And there
was this lovely Irish guy who knew so much old stuff, really deep stuff like Beautiful
Dreamer, If You Were The Only Girl In The World... Again, stuff from my Dad’s era. I
used to enjoy listening to him in the evenings and he put me in mind of that genre.
You include one here on Bye Bye Blackbird.
Yeah. Then it goes, “Pack up all my cares and woe” and you go, “Oh, I know this
song!” You inally recognise it. John and I liked that. We used to talk about that as
one of things it would be good to do. We gave a kind of nod to it on Here, There
And Everywhere: “To lead a better life, I need my love to be here…” Whereas in the
old days they would have extended that: “She was here, and I was there, and I think
she’s everywhere…”
So one afternoon, when it was raining, I was in that foyer, and without anyone noticing
except a couple of waiters who were clearing up, I sat at the piano and started
knocking around with this little tune, kind of in the style that I knew he played in:
“What if it rained? We didn’t care. She said that some day soon the sun was gonna
shine…” And there was my Irish buddy sitting behind me, he’d been listening to me
all the time: “Ah that’s great!” A nice little vote of conidence in the song. When I
played it to Tommy, he said “Yeah, I love it, great.” So we did that one and eventually
I had the pleasure of working with Eric ( Clapton ), who put a lovely acoustic guitar
part on. And by the way, I forgot the important ingredient, the day I wrote it was
Valentine’s Day, a fairly important fact! It was our irst dance, very romantic.
Another one might be Do You Want To Know A Secret? “You’ll never know how
much I really love you,” and all that.
That’s right. That was where all that came from. It’s in a lot of the songs that we were
trying to write, even though we were now living in the rock’n’roll era, and inluenced
by it. But when you say rock’n’roll, there’s Elvis Presley doing Love Me Tender, which
is an old song, way older than Elvis. So these songs lived in the rock’n’roll era, as well
as the more hard-rocking things, and I think it was good to have that mix.
It’s an era you’ve often revisited, isn’t it? Honey Pie, You Gave Me The Answer,
Baby’s Request…
The songs of that era were very often on the smoochy side.
Exactly, they’re pretty romantic. The way I igure it, a lot of it was post-War. My
parents’ generation were just recovering, when I grew up, from World War II. In
Liverpool they’d all been bombed. So they were now determined to have a good
time, and they latched on to these very positive songs. They didn’t have expensive
It’s a style that appeals to me. People will often say “What songs do you like? Who
are your favourite composers?” And I say Cole Porter, the Gershwin brothers and
people like that, because the songs are very skilled. Cheek To Cheek was always one
of my favourite songs, I love the way it returns to its opening: “…carry me through,
to, Heaven, I’m in…” It’s a simple little trick, but as a writer I always loved that. And
someone pointed out to me that I kind of did that in Here There And Everywhere.
So all these inluences have always been there. Unless you actually analyse the whole
thing you wouldn’t know it, but they were deinitely in a lot of what we did in The
Beatles.
It’s good to hear Baby’s Request, a bonus track here, which you irst did for the
Back To The Egg album in 1979.
Yeah, that was nice. Before we started the album I played Tommy a couple of songs
that were written in the style of the album that we were about to make. And he said
“Oh, we should try that.” That was originally written, very much in this style, for The
Mills Brothers. I was hoping they would do it. Something happened and they never
did. I’m not sure if they ever heard that I’d offered it to them.
And romance is not just for Valentine’s Day, is it?
I hope it goes beyond that. It works all the year round. To me, I’ve found I enjoy this
as an album to relax by. I can imagine you come home from work, kick your shoes off,
and have your favourite drink, whether it’s hot cocoa or wine or a cup of tea, and you
just sit back. It’s that kind of album. It’s a nice mood. Just let it lood over you.
I nterview by Paul Du Noyer
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