Teaching-Teacher 2 Conversation.pdf

Teaching / Teacher 2 Conversation

AJ: Hello.

to cut off: to interrupt

Kristin: Hey AJ, sorry I had to cut off that last call.

AJ: It’s okay, no worries.

on the same page: in

agreement, sharing the

same ideas

Kristin: Yeah, y’know, I’m, I’m just really glad that we’re on the same page when it

comes to, um, our teaching techniques and ideas on…

AJ: Yeah.

Kristin: …teaching.

AJ: Well, it’s, it’s really exciting actually, that, uh, that we’re kind of doin’ all this

together. I think it’s, it’s really great.

Kristin: Oh, I agree. Yeah, it’s very exciting.

AJ: I think it’s exciting for the um, uh, too. I think it’s just exciting that we’re makin’ all

this great stuff for, uh, y’know for students. Because, y’know, as a, as a language

learner myself, I’m very frustrated. I think that’s one thing that has motivated me to

be, uh, a better teacher… and improve and improve always as a teacher… and make

the lessons really good… is because my own language learning, uh, y’know, efforts

have been so frustrating.

Kristin: Mm-hm.

AJ: And I, I saw such a difference… Like, for example, Spanish… Y’know, uh, I

learned Spanish in the traditional way in school. So, y’know, I’m just al-, I’ve always

struggled with it.

Kristin: Mm-hm.

Tomoe: a (Japanese)

name

AJ: But then Tomoe just started learning Spanish. I mean she’s just a low beginner.

She had zero Spanish. I mean she’s Japanese. They don’t learn Spanish in Japan.

But she took this four day intensive , uh, course using the story telling technique.

intensive: concentrated,

powerful

Kristin: Yeah, I remember.

AJ: Yeah, the same one we use.

www.LearnRealEnglish.com

Teaching / Teacher 2 Conversation

Kristin: Yeah.

frickin': fucking (more

polite version of fucking);

adds stronger emotion

AJ: And, um, I couldn’t believe how much she learned in four frickin’ days. It was

amazing [laugh].

Kristin: [laugh]

AJ: And then we went down to Guatemala for two weeks and, uh, by the end of that

two weeks she was speaking, I’d say, easier, more easily, flowing more, uh, than me.

I mean I had a bigger vocabulary just ‘cause I have so much more experience. But,

uh, she was speaking with more ease. Y’know, I, I was const-, speaking slowly. I ca-

, I was thinking all the time about grammar rules, still. I didn’t want to. I know it’s not

good. But it’s kind of like those things are stuck in my head.

Kristin: Right.

AJ: So it…

Kristin: Yeah.

AJ: …was amazing to see her after four days classes and then two weeks in

Guatemala and she’s just start-, it’s just startin’ to come out. And I’m just like, oh my

god! Wow…

Kristin: Oh, you never told me about…yeah, you never told me about this.

cool: great, wonderful

AJ: Yeah, yeah, it-, it’s pretty cool [laugh].

Kristin: So she, she wouldn’t be stressed at all, it would just kinda come

automatically.

AJ: Right, exactly. And I think that’s the main thing, too. It’s just like emotionally it’s

so different to learn with, y’know, this effortless system. Because, uh, you just feel so

much more relaxed and enjoy it more. Like, I was stressed [laugh].

Kristin: Mm-hm.

AJ: Because I learned this traditional way, y’know, and I’ve tried to take a different

approach, but, um, uh… Y’know, by just listening…. But I have a lot of that old, uh,

www.LearnRealEnglish.com

Teaching / Teacher 2 Conversation

method to, to overcome, y’know, and…

Kristin: [laugh]

AJ: [laugh] It really is. Y’know, I remember… Who was it? Uh, it was David Long, I

think, in, in Thailand. He used to talk about how, y’know, that, that traditional

language teaching methods… They’re not only ineffective. They actually damage

you. Y’know, they create, they create damage that you have to then heal. And it

takes time, to… If you’ve learned with traditional methods for a long time, it takes

time to sort of undo that.

Kristin: Right.

crap: worthless stuff, shit

AJ: You’ve got to go and use, use this kind of effortless system for a while so you

can forget all that old crap .

Kristin: Um-hm.

AJ: I can see that, y’know, certainly my Spanish, uh, improved some as I started to

focus on just listening and tried to forget about the grammar rules. It definitely was

better than in high school or college or university.

Kristin: Um-hm.

AJ: But, um… But still compared to Tomoe who has only used the effortless

methods, it was, it’s amazing, she, to see her. It was pretty cool [laugh].

Kristin: I’m sure you’ve seen as well in the classroom, I know I have, students

themselves struggling with it. Because you were sayin’ you’ve, you’ve, y’know, seen

it with yourself, within yourself, but trying to overcome, uh, the old ways that we’ve

been taught.

AJ: Oh yeah, the, the, y’know, most of the problems are psychological.

Kristin: Yeah.

AJ: Y’know, when, when, like… If the students in my classes, um… The biggest

challenge for me… It’s like, y’know… The, the method I know it works. And it’s got

all this research. I, no doubt about it… But the, the problem, the challenge is to get

the students to accept it, to change their mentality and relax and just, y’know, really

www.LearnRealEnglish.com

Teaching / Teacher 2 Conversation

a leap of faith: a risky

action, a brave action

believe me. Forget your grammar books. The students who, who would do that, who

would just, just have a, kind of a leap of faith , y’know, and say “Okay, I’m gonna, I’m

gonna believe AJ, I’m gonna try these methods,” they would learn so fast. And the

ones who struggled were the ones who just couldn’t do it. Y’know, they, they were

like “No, but I have to study grammar.” And they, they would just keep…

Kristin: Forcing it.

AJ: …they would come to my class but they would keep forcing it. They would keep

using their grammar books. They’d keep trying to memorize vocabulary. And they

would learn so slowly.

Kristin: Yeah.

AJ: And then they would be frustrated because they would be… They’d be asking

me “Why am I learning slowly?” and compared to the other students, who were

learning so much faster. And I would tell them every time, y’know, it’s because you

keep using these old methods, y’know. Forget it.

Kristin: Right.

AJ: But it’s, it’s a psycho-, it’s psychology. I, I think, y’know, it’s not just the method

that people have to… to have a psychological change…

Kristin: Yeah.

AJ: …to succeed with this method.

fitting: appropriate

Kristin: Well, it’s very fitting that you’ve named your lessons effortless, Effortless

English.

AJ: [laugh] It’s hard to get that across because, uh, uh, people are taught that the-,

that they always need to have effort and struggle…

Kristin: Yeah.

AJ: …I get people to relax, that’s the, that’s the maybe the big challenge for us as

teachers.

Kristin: Right. Well hey, I gotta, um, get ready to go to work. So tell Tomoe I said

www.LearnRealEnglish.com

Teaching / Teacher 2 Conversation

hello and I will talk to you later.

AJ: Okay, will do. And yeah, talk to you later.

Kristin: Okay, bye.

AJ: Bye.

www.LearnRealEnglish.com

Plik z chomika:

Inne pliki z tego folderu:

Inne foldery tego chomika: