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ESL Podcast English Café 130
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ENGLISH CAFÉ – 130
TOPICS
How to become a lawyer in the U.S.; five most famous lines from U.S. movies;
proper versus appropriate
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GLOSSARY
attorney – lawyer; a person whose job is to practice law; a legal professional
* I need to find a good attorney to help me write legal contracts for my business.
state bar – a state-level organization of all the people who are allowed to work
as lawyers in a particular state
* I cannot practice law in Idaho, because I am a member of only the state bar for
Nevada.
admission – entry into an organization; permission to join an organization or
participate in a group
* The university offers admission to only the best-qualified students.
bar exam – a difficult state-level test that people must take and pass in order to
work as professional lawyers in a particular state
* If you don’t pass the bar exam the first time, can you take it again?
to hurt (someone’s) feelings – to do or say something that makes another
person feel bad or sad
* Kristy hurt his feelings when she told him that she thought his new haircut
looked very strange.
to beg – to ask desperately for someone to do or not do something
* The children begged their parents to buy them a new computer.
frankly – basically; honestly; without any additional information; with just the
truth
* I’d like to help you with that project, but frankly I just don’t have enough time.
black market – the unofficial part of the economy where things are bought and
sold without paying taxes, outside of the laws
* If medicines continue to become more expensive, many people will start to buy
them on the black market.
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to refuse – to say no; to deny; to reject; to not accept
* Lila refused to go to the dance with her cousin.
class – style; finesse; status in upper society
* Suzanne has so much class! She always dresses well, speaks well, and
seems to know all the right people.
contender – a person who is competitive and is able to compete with other
people
* You’ll never be a contender for a scholarship to a good university if you don’t
improve your grades in high school.
bum – a person who does not have a job, money, or a home
* I was living with my aunt until she told me, “Stop being a bum and get a job!”
unconscious – unaware of what is happening around oneself and unable to
hear or see for a period of time, usually because one has been hit on the head
very hard
* Stephan was unconscious for a few minutes after the skiing accident, and when
he woke up he couldn’t remember what had happened.
kid – child; a word used to address someone of any age in a friendly, informal
way
* No problem, kid, don’t worry about it.
proper – correct; with the right words and actions for a particular situation
* Under Kevin’s leadership, the company took all the proper steps to avoid the
lawsuit.
appropriate – suitable; fitting; correct for the situation
* I don’t think it would be appropriate for you to wear that old dress to the
wedding.
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WHAT INSIDERS KNOW
Famous TV Lawyers
Many popular American television shows are about lawyers. The shows are
about not only their professional work, but also their personal lives.
One famous TV lawyer is Perry Mason. The TV show, Perry Mason , “aired” (was
shown on television) from 1957 to 1966. Mason was a “defense attorney” (a
lawyer who helps the people who have been accused of a crime). In most of the
“episodes” (shows), his client was accused of having committed a murder.
Mason usually conducted a “thorough” (detailed and in-depth) investigation and
found out that someone else was “guilty” (responsible for having committed a
crime). Mason always “won the case” (argued successfully in the courtroom).
L.A. Law is another famous legal drama that aired on television from 1986 to
1994. It was about a “law firm” (a company of many lawyers) in Los Angeles.
The show “dealt with” (covered, or related to) legal issues, but also many social
and cultural issues that were important during that time.
Another famous TV lawyer is Ally McBeal. The show, Ally McBeal, aired from
1997 to 2002 and was very different from Perry Mason . McBeal was a young
lawyer working in Boston. She and the other lawyers worked on very unusual
cases, but the show did not really focus on their legal work. Instead, if focused
more on their personal lives and their romances.
Although these shows are “entertaining” (interesting and/or fun to watch), many
real lawyers “criticize” (say negative things about) them. They believe that TV
shows about the law and lawyers give the American “public” (ordinary people) the
wrong idea about how law is practiced in the country.
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COMPLETE TRANSCRIPT
You’re listening to ESL Podcast’s English Café number 130.
This is ESL Podcast’s English Café episode 130. I’m your host, Dr. Jeff
McQuillan, coming to you from the Center for Educational Development in –
where else – the beautiful City of Los Angeles, California.
Visit our website at eslpod.com. While you’re there, you can download the 8 to
10 page Learning Guide for this episode. You can also take a look at our ESL
Podcast Blog, where several times a week we provide you with even more help
in improving your English.
On this Café, we’re going to talk about how to become a lawyer in the United
States. We’re also going to talk about some of the most famous lines from
American movies. And as always, we’ll answer a few of your questions. Let’s
get started.
Every country has its own system of education and professional training. Today
we’re going to talk about how to become an “attorney” (attorney), which is just
another word for a “lawyer,” someone who works in the legal system. In the
United States, traditionally, being an attorney was very prestigious. When we
say something is “prestigious,” we mean that it is a job that brings people a lot of
respect from other people. Lawyers are usually thought to be intelligent and hard
working. Being a lawyer is a prestigious job, however many people don’t like
lawyers; they make jokes about attorneys. That has been happening for many
centuries, of course!
Lawyers have to study many years to earn their degree and they spend a lot of
money on their education. Like doctors, however, they also “earn,” or receive, a
lot of money once they begin working as lawyers. When you work as a lawyer,
we use the expression “to practice law.” “To practice law” means to work as an
attorney. Normally, “practice” is a verb that means to learn something, to be
training to do something. “I am practicing on the violin” – I am trying to learn to
become better. But when we talk about law, “to practice law” means to actually
be working as an attorney.
To become a lawyer in the United States, first you need to “earn,” or receive, an
undergraduate degree. Undergraduate education is usually the first four years
that you go to college or university after you complete high school. Your
undergraduate degree is usually called a “bachelor’s degree.” After you get your
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undergraduate education, if you want to continue studying, then you go to
graduate school. In graduate school you can earn a master’s degree and a
doctorate, or PhD. If you go to medical school, you can earn a medical degree,
an MD. For example, I earned my undergraduate degree from the University of
Minnesota, then I went to graduate school and got a master’s at the University of
St. Thomas. Finally, I received my PhD from the University of Southern
California. People who become lawyers earn an undergraduate degree in many
different topics; you can study politics, you can study history, you can study
literature, and then become a lawyer. The most popular things that are studied,
however, are English, communications, business, and history.
After you get your undergraduate degree, the next step is to apply to law school.
“To apply” means to fill out the “paperwork,” the forms, in order to ask for
permission to study at that particular college or school. The place where you
study law is usually called a “law school” rather than a “law college,” but it’s the
same. Most law schools are very “competitive,” meaning there are many people
who are trying to enter into the program, many more than they have places for.
So, you have to be very well qualified; you have to have good grades and be
intelligent in order to study in these schools. Most “applicants,” people who try to
enter a university, have to take the LSAT to get into law school. The “LSAT” is a
test that is specifically for those who want to go to law school.
Most law school programs last, or take, three years. They require very intensive
study. “Intensive” (intensive) means, here, very serious, so intensive studying is
studying very hard, for many hours every day. Once you finish law school, you
receive a professional degree called a “Juris Doctor,” or “JD” “Juris” comes from
the word “jurisprudence,” which is a general word describing the law. So, you
study hard in law school and you graduate with your JD, or Juris Doctor, now you
have finished your legal education but you are not yet officially a lawyer.
To become a working lawyer, someone who can practice law legally in a state,
you must become a member of an organization called the “state bar.” The “bar”
(bar) is a state organization of lawyers who have permission to practice law in
that state. It is not related to the bar where you go drinking, although if you have
ever spent time with an attorney, you probably would want a drink! A person with
a JD has to apply for admission to the bar of the state where he or she wants to
work. So, if you work in California, or want to work in California, you have to
apply for admission to the bar, or organization of lawyers, in California.
Admission is usually dependent upon, meaning it depends on, your experience
and your ability to pass a very difficult examination, or test, called the “bar exam.”
The bar exam is very difficult in most states. In California, only about 50 percent
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